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Alexander
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Dec 9, 2010 17:33:03 GMT -5
Post by Alexander on Dec 9, 2010 17:33:03 GMT -5
Official Name: Corellian XS Stock Light Freighter "The Incognito" Faction/Affiliation: Independent Classification: Light Freighter Stock/Custom: Custom (slightly modified from stock) Dimensions- (Used the Millennium Falcon as a guide, seeing as this is the first ship I've ever created) Height: 10 Meters Width: 27 Meters Length: 35 Meters Manufacturer: Corellian Engineering Corp. Energy Source: Ion Power Core Hyper drive rating: 3 Crew Necessity: 1-2 (Ideal is 3) Armament: > 4 Proton Torpedoes > 2 Medium Laser Cannons (one ventral, one dorsal) Passenger Capacity: 5 total Cargo Capacity: 250 Tons Consumables: 1 month Hanger Facilities/Starfighter Capacity: n/a Other: standard comm and sensor array, weak jamming devices Statistics-Speed: 7 Maneuverability: 5 Effectiveness vs. Starfighters: 4 Effectiveness vs. Capital Ships: 2 Armor: 3 Shielding: 3 Sensors: 6 Reliability: 5 Description/role:A ship primarily used by Ignassa and his pilot (Though he primarily flies it himself), the Incognito is a small, quick freighter fit for escape and travel only. While it is capable of holding a few passengers, Ignassa never tends to allow others aboard his ship. A tough little freighter, it poses more attack and transport purposes than it does smuggling or any other sort of job. Obviously not my image[/color]
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Dec 9, 2010 21:35:35 GMT -5
Post by Sporky on Dec 9, 2010 21:35:35 GMT -5
Energy source would be an ion power core, not ion engines. =3 I'm not the greatest judge of such things, but Arh once said medium laser cannons are the best anti-fighter defense. But if he says heavy is fine too, I bow to his word. :3 Stick a 2 in front of the 5 in tonnage. The average fighter can carry...70 tons, I believe. So 250 tons would be about right for a light freighter. Space, gravity, etc.. Bump the reliability down to a 4. Maybe 5. The picture is of a ship class that first cropped up in the Rise of the Empire era, which started around 1k BBY. So..ummm...Tardis mk. II? xD A different image is needed, brah. That's all. ^^ I now pass this along to Sir Arheim Owlface.
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Dec 9, 2010 21:55:23 GMT -5
Post by sparrow on Dec 9, 2010 21:55:23 GMT -5
A few points...
This is a relatively small freighter, and heavy laser cannons are large. In addition, you say that the ship is intended more for traveling and escaping than fighting, so it seems medium may be appropriate.
Ion cannons are generally for fighting larger ships (they're inadequate for targeting starfighters), especially when the objective is to disable and capture. Again, doesn't really sound in line with the type of ship you're trying to make here.
The Falcon (which you claim you're basing this ship on in terms of specs) carried 8 missiles, and the Outride (another ship based on the Falcon) carried six torpedoes. 25 is way too many.
Freitech is a canon company formed around the time the second death star was destroyed. The ship in the picture you've used is built by Corellian Engineering Corp.
"No ship that small has a cloaking device!" exclaims Captain Needa in the Empire Strikes Back. And he is correct.
You should probably up the speed a bit if this thing is going to be used for fast travel and escape, and down the capital ship fighting ability, since you'd probably wouldn't want to be doing much of that anyways.
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Dec 9, 2010 22:54:49 GMT -5
Post by Ashi on Dec 9, 2010 22:54:49 GMT -5
actually, most forms of cloaking device are blatantly forbidden by the staff anyway. So you're SOL there.
The simple version of what everybody's saying is this: You're building a ship that's got the same equivalent fire-power of dedicated assault ships and calling it a light freighter. Gut it. Heavy laser cannon are big, bulky weapons that have a hard time targeting anything smaller than a light freighter. Concussion missiles and proton torpedoes are very, very expensive, so you don't want to buy any if you can afford it, and ion cannon on a ship this size would literally be your main gun. You would, ironically, have about five tons of cargo space left, which amounts to about 10 cubic meters of space (smaller than the average space for a crew member).
Here's how I would suggest you fix this:
Drop the concept of more than three weapons. Every gun you put on this thing is going to cost you a fortune on the black market (you can't legitimately buy ship weaponry without a licence) and will make you stand out like a sore thumb on any kind of customs scan. If you want this ship to run away from most fights, I would say you take two light or medium laser cannon (one on top, one on bottom, which is about what the production company could get a licence for) and call it good.
Like sparrow mentioned, you'll need a company that is canon in this era. The two most popular choices are Corellian Engineering Corporation (CEC) and Kuat Drive Yards (KDY), but there are a number of smaller companies if you want to spend some time hunting them down on the wookiee.
Finally, don't try to hide, think like a smuggler; you want to misdirect. Why bother hiding the fact that you've got a cargo-hold full of spice if you've got a bottle of corellian brandy and the inspector is corellian? take him to your lounge, get him drunk and chatty, and go on your merry way with only 150 credits down the drain and an hour or two of listening to him talk about his homeworld, rather than a criminal record plastered across two dozen inhabited systems and a dozen anti-smuggling ships hunting you down.
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Dec 10, 2010 15:02:08 GMT -5
Post by Xander on Dec 10, 2010 15:02:08 GMT -5
Right let me begin with my review. First off let me say that some of your stats are quite high, so I'm going to quote yours then come up with a good formula for a light freighter. Speed: 7 Maneuverability: 5 Effectiveness vs. Starfighters: 4 Effectiveness vs. Capital Ships: 2 Armor: 3 Shielding: 3 Sensors: 6 Reliability: 5This I think is quite a good balance for a light freighter, as I think they would be less effective in a fight and most likely would be less shielded than most. However, it should have a fast speed, good maneuverability and sensors. Then again I also believe your ship to be very, very small. I'd use that for a shuttle, but meh. If I was you, just slap down some more length and width and add a metre or two on the height. It's totally up to you though, but I'd do it. And the others said your engine is insufficient, and I agree. You should have some type of powerful core that will allow you to enter hyperspace, otherwise this baby wont even make it to certain planets in months. Like the others picked up on, your artillery is far to high. A light freighter with these many torpedoes?? What are you gunning down?! But yeah, on a serious note three or four will be sufficient with either the one Ion cannon or the two medium laser cannons. Your choice, and as I said before, it's optional but will help you out in the long run. Anyway, You don't need to comprehend this, but just know it will help you out. - Xander
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Alexander
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Dec 10, 2010 16:11:15 GMT -5
Post by Alexander on Dec 10, 2010 16:11:15 GMT -5
Mm, thanks for all the advice, guys. Everything is revised... except the picture. NO way I can use it? xD I love it, and I couldn't find anything else that I liked anywhere near as much, if at all..
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Dec 10, 2010 16:48:55 GMT -5
Post by Xander on Dec 10, 2010 16:48:55 GMT -5
If it's canon then it's canon I'm afraid, but cause' I'm in a good mood I'll lend a hand by finding a suitable image. (I think) [img]http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20060405031331/eotf/images/d/d4/Sunflare.jpg[/img] There you go, enjoy. And thanks for doing as everybody said, it shows you listen.
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Dec 10, 2010 18:08:24 GMT -5
Post by sparrow on Dec 10, 2010 18:08:24 GMT -5
Actually, since the canon ship in your picture is a Corellian XS Stock Light Freighter, and that ship is from this time period, you can use the image if you specify that your ship is a Corellian XS Stock Light Freighter.
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Alexander
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Dec 10, 2010 18:40:26 GMT -5
Post by Alexander on Dec 10, 2010 18:40:26 GMT -5
Ah! In that case, I changed a few things. Thanks again, Xander/Sparra
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Post by Zarkan on Dec 11, 2010 21:24:59 GMT -5
why do you have torpedo tubes?
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Post by Apillis on Dec 11, 2010 22:10:50 GMT -5
The Corellian XS Stock Light Freighter has a proton toperdo battery as is.
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Dec 11, 2010 22:13:15 GMT -5
Post by sparrow on Dec 11, 2010 22:13:15 GMT -5
Yeah. Blame Bioware for making weapons standard on light freighters. Before, ships like the Falcon and the Outrider had to get aftermarket modifications.
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Dec 11, 2010 22:15:39 GMT -5
Post by Zarkan on Dec 11, 2010 22:15:39 GMT -5
yeah it's one thing to have guns its a whole nother to have something that's only effective on capital ships.
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Alexander
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Dec 11, 2010 22:38:53 GMT -5
Post by Alexander on Dec 11, 2010 22:38:53 GMT -5
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Post by Apillis on Dec 12, 2010 0:57:07 GMT -5
To be honest, we actually don't know what the "fresh out of the factory" XS Stock Light Freighter stats and armaments are, likely considerably less than what they have presented. Because what BioWare has displayed for it is what it is in game, which is your Smuggler character's ship, because the beginning of the storyline for the Smuggler in TOR is that you're looking for your ship, which has been stolen. Thus, since it is the ship of a Smuggler character, what's likely there are the stats of a ship that has already gotten the nice tricksy blackmarket upgrades and armaments and the like.
Because what you're playing in TOR with the Smuggler class (and the XS Stock Light Freighter being the personal ship for the Smuggler class) is essentially the game's "Han Solo" and/or "Dash Rendar" who is already steeped in the seedy underworld of the setting from the onset. Hence why when I personally utilized the ship for my Warden of the Sky, I already had it as a modified XS Stock Light Freighter ship that was stolen and was merely modified a little bit further by her father and herself overtime. Because, the "fresh out of the factory" version of the XS Stock Light Freighter... we don't actually know what they are, just the version of the Smuggler character in TOR.
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Dec 12, 2010 1:02:03 GMT -5
Post by sparrow on Dec 12, 2010 1:02:03 GMT -5
Then shall we say that civilian stock freighters are unarmed then for future reference? It'd make the most sense, I think.
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Dec 12, 2010 4:33:21 GMT -5
Post by Apillis on Dec 12, 2010 4:33:21 GMT -5
Makes sense to me! Or with like... a cheap light lasercannon turret like a lot of the Corellian light freighters have.
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Dec 12, 2010 9:39:31 GMT -5
Post by Alexander on Dec 12, 2010 9:39:31 GMT -5
GEEEEZ LOOUIIIIZZZ
So do you suggest I remove one cannon and just have a single one dorsal? :3 I don't mind doing that, but still... it's gotta have SOME defense. xD
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Dec 12, 2010 14:33:59 GMT -5
Post by sparrow on Dec 12, 2010 14:33:59 GMT -5
No. We're suggesting that it not be stock.
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Alexander
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Dec 12, 2010 15:48:09 GMT -5
Post by Alexander on Dec 12, 2010 15:48:09 GMT -5
Okay, done!
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