Jedi High Council Discussion

[Jenno]

So, I was thinking that the Council could probably do with another PCed meeting of the minds soon. And instead of me and Jace being the only ones to go over things a little bit, I thought we could have a discussion thread for all the folks with High Council Members to be informed/discuss/suggest events for the meetings. We've gained a fair few more members since the last council thread so this is probably best.

This will also have a list of the current council members, I'll update it with those in pending once they get approved.



List of current High Council Members:



Grand Master:

Jace Beleren (Jace)


Jedi Battlemaster:

Celia Saylis (Saylis)


High Council Members:

Atu Soka (Cavalry King)
Creemor-Lek (Casual)
Insway Nal (SlipLihte)
Kellick Vakkor (Regnier)
Kaiven Te’Baas (Stripes)
Mon’vuuem (Otterling)
Rayn Gera (Squee)
Reè Kota (Falcon)
Roq Nd’ath’terrain’akai (Kellaishleya)
Vreem Took (Jenno)



Council Members in the Blades:



Jedi Lord:

Vreem Took (Jenno)

High Jedi Generals:

Atu Soka (Cavalry King)
Celia Saylis (Saylis)

[Jenno]

This is a double post so that the first post can be used just for a list of the active council members.

Now, the last meeting covered a fair amount and this one, I feel, needs to be used to discuss the many things that have happened since then, my main thinking is the battles that have all taken place. Subterrel, Yaga Minor, Rhen Var and the final fourth battle (which I forget if I’ve revealed to the masses yet or not) are the battles of which I speak, I think we can skip over the events of each battle being posted up by particular members and I would much rather start the thread with an OOC note of who gave the reports for which battles so that we can kick right into the discussing.

The talks about the battle will be important because it is now official and clear that the Sith have returned. But this might not necessarily mean the rest of the Order will be rushing into battle with the Blades, there’s still a lot unknown about the Sith, for one they don’t know of its ranking/structure, nor of those in charge, Iniquitous and Paxis. So again that discussion will resurface and most of those on the council will have come into contact with members of the Sith Order during the battles that have taken place.

(NOTE: I still remain undecided as to whether or not the Jedi should go to war at this time, though currently I am leaning towards them not going to war yet. This can also be something to discuss in here, I personally think it just makes things more interesting for the time being)

And the final point I have is that the Galactic Senate/Military/Chancellor will be passing the control of the Jedi world Seraphim (link) directly to the Blades, making it the primary base for the Blades and the Republic Military for the war against the Mandalorians and Sith Empire. However, it’s very likely the Jedi won’t be taking kind to such an action from the Republic/Blades. This will hopefully cause more disruption in the Jedi Order and between the council members (my aim to ruffle some feathers within the Jedi is one I aim to have fun with).

So as you can see this could potentially bring up some heated debates between the council-folk.

Oh, as I think about it, this would most likely be a good time for the Jedi Temple on Tython to be deemed as completed and for use by the Jedi as another Temple/base to train and the like. There are probably some potential plots to make use of in that, which I’ll probably talk to Jace about at some point.

Comments/thoughts/questions/opinions from any folks who are part of the Jedi High Council, or any of those with High Council Member applications still in pending would like to add?

[SlipLihte]

Totally awesome with bunny rabbit pancakes on top!! I can finally wheel out "Official Insway"!

Sorry, lost it for a moment there. I'll be serious now.




1. First thing I want to point out, just as a bit of history for those of you who aren't bored enough with your lives to go look up his back story, Insway is(at least until Kella or Falcon get there new HCMs accepted) the newest member of the Council, joining somewhere between the events of the Journey Ahead thread and Subterrel. I suppose the timeframe doesn't really matter at this point, though. What this does bring up is the question as to whether he was invited to join by the whole Council, or just those members who weren't off with the Blades. I'm not really sure how communication between the two groups would have been, so that's up to you to decide. It's also up to Vreem and co to decide, if Insway was indeed chosen without their consent, how much they agree with this. Just a thought.

2. Just as a luxury, could you perhaps indicate in that list who is with the Blades and who is with the Order? As far as I have it, Vreem, Atu, Rhissai and Celia are all with the Blades (though last time I saw Rhissai's profile, it was in the fringe section. What's going on there?). This is just for the sake of convenience, to avoid confusion and such.

3. Though I'm not sure whether this is the place to discuss it, in the Journey Ahead thread mentions were made of sending Jedi on recon missions and so. Now, I'm not sure since I haven't had the time to look at all of them, but it doesn't look like any of these have been PC missions. Wouldn't it help involve more characters in the central plot if a few of these missions were made playable missions? Otherwise, it's pretty much Council of Reconciliation and wait for a big battle to come up.

4. Just something that should be clarified: how much contact has there been between the Blades and the rest of the Jedi in this time? I know they've been recruiting, but was there a communication gap between the Council members? For instance, have Jace and Vreem been talking at all in the intervening time?

5. Though I suppose this is a decided point, I just want to check, is this meeting going to be taking place in the Council chambers?

6. Do you want to know the standing of our characters before hand, or are we going to let it all come out during the RP?

Other than that, I don't have any thoughts right now.

[.:Falcon:.]

Coolio. Reè likes strategy sessions. I think. Okay, I like strategy sessions. Reè will probably be moping about her terrible bad luck- the Sith die out, then come back as she gets to be a really good Jedi finally...anyway, onward.

Dunno if Reè will be approvedized before then, but if so, this sounds good to me. ^.^

[Jenno]

In response to Slip's post:

1. He will have been invited by the whole council, well, only a majority and the Grand Master are really necessary but the Blades would be involved for such a decision (unless of course they were practically in the middle of a battle, which they wouldn't have been at that point). In terms of IC time, both Celia and Insway would have joined the council at about the same time, at that point Vreem spoke to Celia to try and convince her to run for the position. However, there could still be a member or two of the council who might not have wanted Insway to be part of the council, that would be down to the individual member/character.

For Vreem though I believe he would have welcomed Insway to the position, since your character is a very active teacher and up until events such as Korriban and the assassination of the Chancellor/start of the war and the Blades, Vreem was head instructor for a year (since he originally joined the council) and before that served his other 8/9 years as a Master teaching in the Temple. Likelyhood is he'd be aware of Insway at the very least, if not having met and spoken on numerous occasions. But Insway seems the sort that Vreem would want on the council for his experience in teaching.

2. There's now another list below the first pointing out who is part of the Blades. And the reason Rhissai is not on the list/is in the Fringe section is because Dire Wolf is having the character turn grey and leave the order after Rhen Var and the battle which will be directly after that.

3. It is a good idea to have them set up as missions for PC members to go on. They just have to be carefully watched at this point so that they don't go against the story we've set up. With the battles over and the Sith discovered recon missions and maybe Shadow assassination missions might be more common/popular. If not for the Jedi then for the Blades. However, this fits in quite well with the development/discussion regarding our mission system that is one of the things I'm hoping to change shortly. For the time being though very little info will have been gained and the missions will have been NPC ones.

4. It's true that the Blades have been busy, most of the Jedi they've recruited have been dispatched/assigned to fleets across Republic territory. As for Vreem and the council members, well the others could have been off recruiting or simply focusing on the territory which they have to defend and sharpening up things there. For things such as masters seeking to take on padawans, it's not likely they'd be there, or for the assigning of regular missions, they would try and get involved for the recon ones (though they would probably be using the holographic council-thingy that you see in the films since they would be at their station for most of their time, maybe travelling to temples to recruit but probably not much more than that).

I know for Vreem he was very busy with assigning Jedi and such tasks (he didn't do much recruiting as he left that to Rhissai and focus more on strategy/deployment). He was around to try and convince Celia to join the council and for a few trips after that but his attention is frequently pulled elsewhere. They would attend important discussion/debates that may resurface, assuming they're informed of the meetings. It's highly possible there may be some discontent towards the council members who are part of the Blades with neglecting the entirety of their duties, that's up to the individuals. Vreem will really not have spoken to Jace since he first left the temple, not outside of the council chambers anyway. After the discussion thread I'll intend to have Vreem remain around the Temple for some council member interaction, at least for a little while. I believe Otterling wished for Mon'vuuem and Vreem to have a chat.

5. Aye, it will be in the council chambers. Doubt any of these council meetings would be situated elsewhere, but I do enjoy how with the same setting we can always make such good/interesting threads.

6. Well, I personally try/tend to talk to people beforehand in regards to the relationships between Vreem and their own council member, but there's frequent slip-in spots for information regarding the character, especially in the first post we each make.

I hope that covered all your points.

[SlipLihte]

Thanks for the quick reply, much appreciated.

Ok, t'is awesome then and Insway shall be eagerly awaiting this, as he has a few things to say.

As a side note, I just wanna say any other Council members who want to """discuss""" matters with me before hand are welcome to do so. This might be a busy week, but I would like to start getting Insway's relations to the rest of the Council figured out. RP discussions are also welcome, I'm always open to new ideas.

Also, I suppose, if you want, I could have Insway attend hologramatically from Tython. I believe he's the only Jedi Instructor on the Council that isn't a part of the blades, so it might make sense for him to help get the rest of the Jedi teachers and students settled in there if the temple gets completed. Would personally prefer it if he was on Coruscant, though.

[Jenno]

These are always better done in the flesh, I know Vreem will be there in the flesh and unless Saylis and Cavalry King have a specific reason why they don't want their Blades to be there in the flesh then that's down to them, but they will quite easily be able to.

And this meeting will contain the announcement that Tython is finished and ready for the Jedi to start filling, so they wont have started it yet.

[Jace]

Well Jennos already said basically what needs to be said. So ill just comment on a few things of my own.

It does make sense to just assume the reports have been made OOC, that way we can avoid some longer and possibly tedious posts.

The outcome of these battles should indeed be the crux of our discussions.

If possible, I would like Jace to make the announcement about Tython since I kinda had it as his project.

those Recon missions mentioned in the journey ahead would indeed make good PC missions. We just didn't get a chance to make use of them since we jumped into the major battles right after. They would be a good filler between the major battles.

Seraphim is also a matter that should be discussed as Jennos previously stated.

Obviously im just repeating many things already said, but I just thought I should drop my voice in here too.

[Jenno]

Alrighty, so we have a full council now it seems. The list at the top of the page has been editted to show as such.

There's another point that will be raised. Rhissai's departure from the Order will be a subject to be brought up. Dire wolf's not decided on the exact details, but the likelyhood is that Rhissai will be taking her lightsabers with her and leaving a message behind. Of course, as you probably all know, the Jedi have not looked too kindly upon the members of their Order walking away from the path with such a powerful and symbolic weapon in their hands. This will likely mean sending Jedi to track her down, or at least, discussing the issue. Given that she will have stumbled quite far to falling upon Rhen Var, this will also be another factor to consider.

Also, on the matter of who will be relaying what info in the meeting, I thought it would be like so:

Jace would announce Tython and Subterrel.

Vreem would announce Rhen Var, the Fourth Battle, Rhissai's departure and Seraphim.

Atu Soka or Celia Saylis would announce Yaga Minor.

I don't know if you want to have one of our latest additions be voted onto the council in this meeting as well. In which case we'd make the Rhissai thing the first subject to discuss.

[Regnier]

Well...

Basically, I'm going under the assumption that Kellick has been just...gone for a little over a year now, which she'll explain. Maybe. Sort of. Somewhat.

So be prepared for a "Sup, foo's. I miss anything important?" With a little more eloquence as she makes a subtle entrance right in the middle of things.

She's like that.

[Dire Wolf]

h'okay. I've more or less come up with what she (rhiss) is going to do. I plan to write up a single post for ----- (with Rhiss. Kirin will be involved in that one), and the post will basically be her using Battle meditation from her dreadnaught, though she'll be very distraught because of the events of Rhen Var. Both her meeting with Eurachis, and the little blood rage she went into. >_> I'll also PM/IM a message to Jenny so he can post it up when the discussion comes to it. Still formulating it. I can put it up here if ya'll would like, it doesn't matter to me.

[Kella]

Everything sounds like awesomesauce. ^^ I know Roq'll have quite a few things to say about the war and such, so that thread ought to be fun, whenever it comes. X)

Also, I like me some gud jedi-huntin'. >:3 I'd love to have Roq be part of the party that goes to hunt down Rhissai, though that may or may not work, logistically.

In any event, the main purpose of this post is simply to pop in, declare my presence, and my eagerness for upcoming events...

[Regnier]

Heh...Kellick is going to be so confused.

"Wait...Sith? Real Sith? When? How? WHY? But, but..."

[.:Falcon:.]

Yay. All sounds good to me. Feel free to vote in Reè if ya'll want to...so she can then summarily learn she is partway in charge of combat. ^.^

[Cavalry King]

I suppose I can announce Yaga Minor, the thread seems to have died out though

[saylis]

Now that I have returned from my computer problem I agree that Calvalry King should announce Yaga, I wasn't really part of it. As far as what Celia will say, likely that just she agrees with Vreem, disappointed about Rhiss, and I agree that maybe this might be Insway or Celia's induction. It can be either way, it just depend on what you want to do. So, ideas anyone?

[Jace]

Alright its been quite some time since we began this discussion, and I think this is the next step in getting our plot moving. I know that everyone is busy, myself included, but if we don't start this now, its gonna be another year before our plot moves.

I will be starting the thread by Friday, so be on the lookout. Just in case though, I will PM all the council members.

[Regnier]

So...

Should I get the shock paddles hooked to the fusion reactor?

[Jenno]

Personally I really want to write a response. But at the moment we're just waiting on Squee and Otterling (until we get some members to replace the old inactive ones).

Might give it until the weekend for them to post.

[Regnier]

Yeah, I figure the Creamy One's got a few things to say after that response.

Just thought I'd check in, see what we knew. I'll go back to lurking and killing off my characters now.