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Jun 7, 2009 9:39:58 GMT -5
Post by Scow2 on Jun 7, 2009 9:39:58 GMT -5
So, from what I gather from Vex, the actual armor is only 31 lbs (helm + uniform + plates), and its classification is at least medium. The extra stuff (ammo, weapon, etc.) are not part of the armor suit itself, and thus don't figure in to the equation. A lot of the materials used in Star Wars are at least implied to be lighter than our current counterparts, so some of the medium armors could justifiably weigh less than 31 lbs, or in your case, the 35 lbs. Our Star Wars Republic Light Infantry Armor, which seems to be the equivalent of what you describe the Interceptor armor to be, is 29 kg for an average person, proving my point that the armor weights are actually given in pounds, though "kg" is tacked on to the end. And it still doesn't justify the reason for Sith "spec-ops" armors to weigh in excess of 20 kg.
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Post by Ashi on Jun 10, 2009 0:37:33 GMT -5
I still think it's funny what people are considering beskar to be. The mandalorians commonly wield beskade, which are essentially 2 in. thick (5-6cm) machetes in addition to full beskar plate (meaning a total about about 30-35kg by my estimation. 50-60 by most people's estimation of beskar). Beskar has to be in roughly the same weight class as an energy dispersing mesh, it's the support systems (water, 2 hours of pressurized air, etc.) that make up the major bulk of the armor. Sure, it's not the easiest thing to move around in, but it's protection is a lot better for a lot less mass than people realize. a full suit of beskar, judging from the variety of both canon and non-canon sources I've come across, has to be roughly on the order of 15, maybe 20 kilos. the support systems provide about ten kilos, totaling about thirty kilos. Except for one rather significant problem. Coruscant (the planet which all gravities and weights are based on) has a gravity approximating about 1.4 earths. meaning that all weights are 40% heavier than they should be. This, more than anything else, works to justify some of these outrageous weights.
For example, a soldier who trains in 1.5 coruscanti gravities fully armored, would be massively more maneuverable in standard grav. Enough, even, that their normal weight would be effectively 2/3rds what they're used to, making them 1/3rd more maneuverable than you'd expect to find them. Many habitable worlds in the star wars universe, however, are on the order of two standard gravities (about 3 gravs irl). Humans can't easily take that kind of pressure, and they'd probably be recuperating from so many broken bones it isn't even funny (human bones are designed for an earth standard gravity. at two gravs we get double inertia, which means even a minor fall can break a bone. at 3, that's even more pronounced). The fact of the matter is this: it don't matter. As long as the people RPing in full plate suits of armor aren't trying to use ataru like yoda, then it can be considered decently realistic in this universe.
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Jun 10, 2009 10:48:50 GMT -5
Post by Scow2 on Jun 10, 2009 10:48:50 GMT -5
I have no clue how gravitational differentiation never crossed my mind here... Why do we even bother with a weight category? The Star Wars Galaxy physics sneer at universal physics!
And if Coruscant is considered 1.4 times heavier than earth... then I think Humans in the SW universe are probably stronger than normal people... Head is hurting... Damn interplanetary physics.
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Jun 10, 2009 11:11:05 GMT -5
Post by sparrow on Jun 10, 2009 11:11:05 GMT -5
Nope. Coruscant has earth-like grav (conflicting sources but i trust wookieepedia over wikipedia on star wars matters). And I believe it's safe to assume that most major planets will have near earth-like gravity unless stated otherwise.
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Jun 10, 2009 11:13:23 GMT -5
Post by sparrow on Jun 10, 2009 11:13:23 GMT -5
Nope. Coruscant has earth-like grav (conflicting sources but i trust wookieepedia over wikipedia on star wars matters). And I believe it's safe to assume that most major planets will have near earth-like gravity unless stated otherwise.
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Jun 10, 2009 20:56:27 GMT -5
Post by Scow2 on Jun 10, 2009 20:56:27 GMT -5
Yet, planets like Coruscant, Tatooine, etc... do vary in size and mass... This is a Galaxy far far away, where the laws of physics apparently like to be different... crazy emo physics...
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Jun 10, 2009 21:02:06 GMT -5
Post by sparrow on Jun 10, 2009 21:02:06 GMT -5
You can have planets of different sizes and masses and still have earth grav, as long as the proportions are right
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Jun 10, 2009 21:23:06 GMT -5
Post by Scow2 on Jun 10, 2009 21:23:06 GMT -5
The density of the planets would have to be distressingly low for that to work, since distance would be increasing linearly (quadratically in full equation, due to inverse-square law), while mass would be increasing cubicly. p = planetary density. G = gravitational pull at surface r = planet's radius from center of gravity.
G = (p(r3 x pi))/(r2)
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Jun 10, 2009 21:38:51 GMT -5
Post by sparrow on Jun 10, 2009 21:38:51 GMT -5
I read a book about star wars science once where one chapter tried to explain how a planet like naboo could form, since naboo's basically a bunch of loosely connected rocks with water filling it the gaps that forms a planet sized call. I think the conclusion in the end was sit back, turn your brain off, enjoy the movie.
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Jun 10, 2009 21:43:28 GMT -5
Post by Scow2 on Jun 10, 2009 21:43:28 GMT -5
Do you read Darths and Droids too?
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Jun 10, 2009 21:45:50 GMT -5
Post by sparrow on Jun 10, 2009 21:45:50 GMT -5
Yes I do.
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Post by Dire Wolf on Jun 14, 2009 21:59:03 GMT -5
well, I tend to agree with y'all honestly, the armor should be half - three fourths of the weight. Unless it has stored oxygen in it or some such... but yeah, >.> i was completely guessing at how much the beskar'gam weighed. that'll go down some.
< will be slowly tuning down the weights of armor over time.
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Post by A®heim on Aug 3, 2010 22:57:53 GMT -5
Did no discussion threads exist when this came up? Honestly people.
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