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Jan 24, 2011 22:53:25 GMT -5
Post by A®heim on Jan 24, 2011 22:53:25 GMT -5
Crew: add a couple zeros
Armament: Heavy for a dreadnought
Passengers: add a zero
Speed: Way too high
Weapon stats: adjust accordingly to ^
Electronics: stop changing my template
Reliability: much too high as well
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Jan 24, 2011 23:22:47 GMT -5
Post by Dire Wolf on Jan 24, 2011 23:22:47 GMT -5
Can the mando's even have dreadnauts? I thought they were a smaller, less rich faction...
Edit: Oops, its a heavy cruiser. Well, isn't a little big for one of those? Like... I wouldn't expect the mandos to have very many battleships/battlecruisers... and they aren't that big, really. But I dunno, I've been out of the game for a bit. Stuff probably changed.
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A®heim
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Jan 24, 2011 23:27:18 GMT -5
Post by A®heim on Jan 24, 2011 23:27:18 GMT -5
Nope, the largest vessel their shipyards can support is a cruiser, which this (hypothetically) is.
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Jan 24, 2011 23:40:28 GMT -5
Post by Dire Wolf on Jan 24, 2011 23:40:28 GMT -5
The munificent class was also built roughly 3-4,000 years in the future. I would think twice about using it as a reference.
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A®heim
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Jan 24, 2011 23:41:09 GMT -5
Post by A®heim on Jan 24, 2011 23:41:09 GMT -5
I'm not well. Try me.
Crew: more
Armament: Heavy for a dreadnought
Weapon stats: adjust accordingly to ^
Electronics: stop changing my template
Reliability: too high, especially with crew size
I could argue my points. But I'm not going to.
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Jan 25, 2011 10:54:52 GMT -5
Post by Sporky on Jan 25, 2011 10:54:52 GMT -5
What's this 'electronics' supposed to be? Sensors? I think Arh was serious about changing the template. Keeping it as 'sensors' would be better for the uninitiated who don't know the difference, yo.
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Jan 25, 2011 13:18:25 GMT -5
Post by Sporky on Jan 25, 2011 13:18:25 GMT -5
My bad, then. =3 Am sorry.
Consumables seems a LITTLE high for a ship of this size, personally. I've made bigger ships with less. Though as consumables also includes oxygen, I can sorta see it..Arh's call in the end.
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A®heim
One does not just make a dreadnought.
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Jan 25, 2011 13:54:07 GMT -5
Post by A®heim on Jan 25, 2011 13:54:07 GMT -5
My bad, too. Must have been the rough one at the top. Consumables is fine. Crew needs to be a bit higher still and keep in mind that when you fill out "Other" include a justification for the high sensor/electronics/computer stuff stat.
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Post by Latus on Jan 25, 2011 15:51:28 GMT -5
IMO number of armaments still seems a touch high, as does the armor. Crew still seems low for what your ship is. starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Victory_I-class_Star_DestroyerThis ship is similar scale and scope of a Victory 1-Class Star Destroyer; in more than 3000 years the Victory 1 still has 5,200 sentient operators including officer staff and enlisted. This is after 3000 years of mechanical improvements. You could knock this down by a thousand so two for the lack of hangar or landing contingents but everything needs someone or a hundred to run it efficiently in a ship this size. This ship is more than the sum of its parts and needs folk to operate everything. Crank up the crew or crank down the armaments.
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Post by Ashi on Jan 25, 2011 16:21:20 GMT -5
actually, keep in mind that Kuat is known for it's designs with a very high crew requirement. The ISD mk 1 and mk 2 required over three times the crew a ship of it's size should have needed. It's partially explained by the really high maintenance requirement, but it's still really, really high.
For the average cruiser, a crew of 2,000-3,000 should be more than enough, and the latter should be used mostly in conjunction with normal cruisers. This is a heavy cruiser, which means no fighters to maintain, no massive mismatched machinery, and thus will be on the lower end of that scale.
Corden, call it 1500 at the least. Even if you made the whole thing a gorram logic circuit, it would be unable to maintain itself very well. The maintenance crew alone on a ship half this size is 3-400. This is not the GCW, unfortunately, so the crew requirements are still really high. They haven't had a dreadnought-class heavy cruiser yet to learn from.
Also, the 1-10 scale is not specialized or localized for one single class, it encompasses all of 'em. a 9 in armor is the kind of thing you would expect on a really heavy battleship or on a dreadnought. a 7 is appropriate for this size category, and is possibly even a little high.
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Jan 25, 2011 19:30:50 GMT -5
Post by A®heim on Jan 25, 2011 19:30:50 GMT -5
Ashi is correct. The scale applies to ships across the classes. And your crew is still insufficient. The sooner you start making more significant changes, the sooner you're kosher vlassic.
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Jan 27, 2011 9:13:38 GMT -5
Post by A®heim on Jan 27, 2011 9:13:38 GMT -5
I just thought it was a parody of Taim & Bak, I'm such a geek...
Anyway, this is MUCH better, thank you for keeping things civil. It's easy for these things to break down and complicate themsel- I think you know what I mean.
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