Invaere-class Battlecruiser

[Apillis]

Official Name: Invaere-class LSE-40 Battlecruiser
Faction/Affiliation: Sith Empire
Classification: Battleship / Capital Ship / Warship / Command Ship

Stock/Custom: Stock

Dimensions-
Height: 100m
Width: 600m
Length: 1000m

Manufacturer: Muunilist Shipyards / Laitra Manufacturers

Energy Source: STM-200 Mass Energy-Powercore

Hyper drive rating: Class 5 (Class 8 backup)

Crew Necessity: 20,000

Armament:

• Heavy Quad-Turbolasers x10
• Heavy Dual-Ion Cannon Batteries (4 to ea. battery) x5
• Light Point-defense dual-laser cannon turret batteries (4 to ea battery) x8
• Proton torpedo launcher batteries (3 to ea. battery) x4 (100 ea. launcher)
• Assault Concussion missile launcher batteries (3 to ea. battery) x4 (100 ea. laucher)
• Tractor beam batteries (3 to ea. battery) x4

Passenger Capacity: 7,000 troops
Cargo Capacity: 25,000 metric tons
Consumables: 5 years
Hanger Facilities/Starfighter Capacity:

• 100 Sith fighers
• 50 Various support vehicles

Other:

Statistics-
Speed: 3
Maneuverability: 2
Effectiveness vs. Starfighters: 4
Effectiveness vs. Capital Ships: 7
Armor: 7
Shielding: 7
Sensors: 7
Reliability: 3

Description/role:

((Picture by Vince-T))

One of the most recent vessels the Laitra developed along side Muunilist Shipyards for the Sith Empire, largely intended for creating a devastating barrage of fire in unison with a few or at least a couple others of its kind. Unlike with their first ship design flaw, this time it was built with more the understanding that it would be a more 'organic' and non-Force-Sensitive crew, and thus not forcing the crew to deal with a high performance vessel constantly. However, it shares the problem like many vessels of its immense size, which is it needs a very large crew to man it.

The Sith Navy had been seeking to replace, or rather, gradually phase out the old Centurion-class battlecruisers. The Laitra obliged to aid the Muunilist Shipyards in developing just that. It is a little smaller than the Centurion-class battlecruisers, but its armament is more updated to the times, and can carry few more fighters and support vehicles than the Centurion-class battlecruisers were able. It was also designed with the understanding that it may be used as a command ship, and thus with the awareness some naval captains like to tailor their ship just a little to their own specifications; and so the Laitra did design the ship's systems with enough versatility to be adjusted to a captain's own personal tastes, though within reason of the ship's limitations.

[ramboneil]

Small thing that's eating away at my geeky overly technical soul. Battlecruisers are supposed to be glass cannons, cannons and weapons out the wazoo and ultra fast but fragile as a china vase with cannons mounted on it. From the specs and loadout, this looks a bit more like a battleship, which are supposed to sit on the line and dish out as good as they get and then some.

Also, from the size, I would say this thing is high battleship/low dreadnought tonnage, not really battlecruiser. It's not really a concern though. Also, I think class 2 hyperdrives are pretty restricted unless you have a mod's permission or it funnels the force through hand wavium coils to super-energize the plot capacitors and accelerate advancement. In that case I don't really care.

[Apillis]

A battlecruiser is just a labeling for a form battleship, which is what this is. For example, one of the largest ships in the Republic fleet and later Revan's Sith fleet was the Centurion-class battlecruiser, which was 1200m in length. Something that size isn't exactly going to be a "glass-cannon" because the framing structure and metal plating to hold something of that gargantuan size together, especially to fly through space at beyond lightspeed levels is going to have to be pretty damn thick.


While the armament is just slight upgrade from the canon Centurion-class battlecruiser, it's size is actually a little smaller from it. Dreadnaughts in Star Wars tend to be a bit bigger than this, and I'm not even speaking of the Super Dreadnaughts. Seriously, look up the canon ship Centurion-class battlecruiser (which is not a Dreadnaught vessel) and you'll see where I got most of the specs to create this. Hell, in the description I mention that this vessel was designed to be part of the process of cycling out the Centurion-class battlecruisers.

My 20+ years of SW nerdery is apparently much, much bigger than yours.

[A®heim]

That image is either or, or looks way too much like, an Imperial Star Destroyer.

In general, we have waaaaaa-a-a-a-aaaaaaaaaaa-a-a-a-a-aaaa-aa-a-ay too many battlecruiser/dreadnoughts/etc. on the site. More than any military could possibly fund the stock production of. Especially in the Sith section.

So I'm going to test one of the new things that's going to be added with the tech section revisions in progress on you and ask what makes this one different from all the others that fill the same roll? What unique niche does this ship design attend to that makes it worth the expense of facilitating its construction?

[Apillis]

Eh, the pic is just the bottom of an original ship design by Vince-T did on deviantart, which to me, resembles an Imperial Star Destroyer about as much as the Harrow-class Dreadnaught (a canon ship of this era from TOR) or the Centurion-class Battlecruiser (made 3 centuries before this era (during the Mandalorian War) from KotOR2) does. I mean... you can say that any ship that is triangular shaped from the bottom resembles an Imperial Star Destroyer, so barring something just because it resembles one kinda' doesn't make sense at this point factoring in canon sources for ships of this timeline.

As for it's niche, it's for the most part in the description, it's cycling out the old Centurion-class Battlecruisers which are a three century old design at this point. However, if you're looking for something a bit more specific than that. That's kinda' in the description too, though I didn't elaborate on it too much (or articulate it too well). Which is that it's meant as a (or can be used as such) command ship that with others of its kind can work to deliver a powerful barrage against other capital ships, which would be effective for creating blockades, guarding systems from orbit, and/or invasions.

[ramboneil]

Well, said military has access to the resources of perhaps 20 notable inhabited worlds, not to mention the other planets and moons in the systems that act as nothing more then strip mining real-estate. That's just the sith empire. Besides, who says it's a bunch of fleets of them? The USN during WWII only fielded 4 iowa class battleships, what's to say there's only 8-12 ships of any singular class of dreadnought, battleship, carrier? Heck, what's to say there's not simply a single one of any dreadnought class, certainly don't need more then one to make a point.

Also, wedge design is relatively common, it's just an efficiency statement. Though I prefer the design of the Nelson class battleships, 100% firepower in either direction, except down and back, less targetable area, less mass, more guns.

[A®heim]

For the record, we dismiss all canon of TOR as it wreaks havoc with our continuity. Also because Lucas Arts love to skew their technology when it comes to mainstream games. I outlined this all briefly in your corvette review.

Ignoring the picture for the time being, there are several technical flaws:

-Need the number of guns in each battery
-Need the number of missiles for the launchers
-8 light point-defense lasers (may want to note "turrets") won't cover a quarter of this thing from fighters.
-It's remarkably fast (both sublight and hyperdrive) and lightly protected for a ship of its size/class. This suggests to me a very specialized role that doesn't fit what you describe it being designed to do (picket bombardment). The stats to me suggest an interdiction or rapid-response vessel.

[Apillis]

Alrighty, I lowered its speed overall, though at this point I have no idea what a good standard is for hyperdrives for capital ships is. And made its defenses and whatnot a bit more hefty.

[A®heim]

Keep in mind that due to the unrefined state of the technology in our timeline, heavy ion cannons draw as much or more power than a heavy turbolaser. Currently, you have dual versions of 40 of these. It's possible that a ship this size could power them, it suggests a specialization as an ion boat. In major fleet battles, a dedicated ion boat can be a real headache for other large capital ships, but they're significantly more limited in surface bombardment (ion cannons not being too effective at inflicting much mass, fiery death).

[Apillis]

I honestly didn't put any of that into consideration. I honestly just thought, "Canon batteries often are just 5 to 7 cannons, that should be fine." Not thinking at all about the cumulative number of them. XD So, now I tried to balance it out a bit more between the heavy turbolasers and heavy ion cannons. I like the idea of a 1, 2 punch with the ion cannons and turbolasers, or the ion cannons and torpedoes/missiles; or possibly a 1, 2, 3 snocker with the ion cannons, missiles/torpedoes, and turbolasers. At least, that's what was in my head when I came up with it. XD

[A®heim]

Ions to drop the shields, turbos to punch a few holes, and torps to plug em up again.

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