Dalidate armor Prototype.

[sharp]

Official Name: Dalidate LF-16 Armor prototype
Faction/Affiliation: Fringe
Weight: 31 Kilograms (31,000 grams)
Manufacturer: Dalidate incorporated.

Stock/Custom: Custum

Classification: Multi-purpose
Rating: class VI
Composition: The armor is made of of plastisteel plates with minor durasteel plates mixed in over
the wrists.

Other: N/A

Description: (the girl in the picture was the tester Sharp stole it from.) composition is
plastisteel with slight-minor bits of durasteel. The armor was repainted when it was taken
so it no longer showed the symbol of Dalidate incorporated. it now is covered with smooth grey
paint. although SHarp never painted over the yellow stripes as respect for their crafts man ship.

[Apillis]

Official Name:
Faction/Affiliation:
Weight:
Manufacturer: (MUST have a manufacturer, even if it is unique, because somebody somewhere made it)

Stock/Custom: (Works the same way as weapons, ships, vehicles, and droids do.)

Classification: (Anti-Laser, Anti-Ballistic, Multi-purpose )
Rating: (Class X being able to stop just about anything and Class I giving barely any protection)
Composition: (what it is made of)

Other: (Other features that the armor sports that doesn't go anywhere else)

Description: (Can either be written, be a picture, or both.)

I think you should take a gander at the rating system there.

X is the Roman numeral for 10. So for this armor to be "Class P", that means it's 400. Either you made a little flub there by accidentally setting beyond the maximum of the armor rating system. Or you're saying this armor is indestructible to all forms of damage and wear, and the person in it can stand on a planet as the planet's sun supernovas and weather the resulting explosion like nothing happened--and all around them has been reduced to nothing while they are floating in space in the same spot they once stood before the planet they were on was obliterated by the star's supernova.

Also, as a heads up, a full suit of plate armor (which good ol' knights of the medieval ages could scarcely move around in) weighed about 30kg, thus fairly heavy and constricting--not pleasant to move around in--they lost a lot of mobility they otherwise could have. You can see on youtube some ding-bats dancing around in armor, but few are genuine full suits of armor and they're all edited few second clips strung together--but none of that equates running around in battle with all that crap (and even in those ding-bat youtube vids you can see them huffin' and puffin'--not comfortable stuff). So, what does this have to do with anything about your armor? 30kg is roughly 65lbs, and after literal centuries of working various full suits of armor to even being able to weather bomb blasts, no matter what-mobility suffers, can't move very quickly, and tend to weight 30kg or less as a result. So, with this armor weighing in 54kg, that's about 120lbs... that's a lot of weight, that's basically another person. Your character is not going to be movin' much... like at all... Maybe a joggers pace at best. Ever see how fast someone moves doing a fireman's carry? It's gonna be like that. And a lot more restricting than those full plate armor knights.

And as a last caveat, another heads up, which is personnel shields are restricted. Too easy for seedy folks to potentially abuse then, so they understandably wound up being restricted.

[Dire Wolf]

One little caveat off of Apillis' lil blurb. Class X is technically theoretical, as it would basically be able to protect you from all forms of damage. IX is the highest rating you can get, and it would be extremely heavy. Also difficult to be approved. Imagine trying to get a Jedi with a 9 in telekinesis approved. Yeah. That hard.

Also.... 54 kg is extremely heavy. That's 119lbs. I don't know if you've ever tried to move in 119lbs of dead weight, but its difficult do do anything. Including walk. This is honestly the weight of the armor that Mandalore would wear, and he's 8' tall and 350lbs. You're going to want to make this considerably lighter, and probably bump the class down to a IV, and no higher than a VII.

The shield generator is a no. They're not allowed in swu.

[Sara]

Also since this is apparently Plassteel, it would have to be far lighter, and far less protective.  As I can point out, since I caught flak for something on my own armor and had to add Durasteel plates added into it here and there.

[sharp]

For starters I would like to say thanks for you guy's tips about what can and cant be done in my armor.

Feb 24, 2013 5:23:26 GMT -5 Apillis said:

X is the Roman numeral for 10. So for this armor to be "Class P", that means it's 400. Either you made a little flub there by accidentally setting beyond the maximum of the armor rating system. Or you're saying this armor is indestructible to all forms of damage and wear, and the person in it can stand on a planet as the planet's sun supernovas and weather the resulting explosion like nothing happened--and all around them has been reduced to nothing while they are floating in space in the same spot they once stood before the planet they were on was obliterated by the star's supernova.

Also, as a heads up, a full suit of plate armor (which good ol' knights of the medieval ages could scarcely move around in) weighed about 30kg, thus fairly heavy and constricting--not pleasant to move around in--they lost a lot of mobility they otherwise could have. You can see on youtube some ding-bats dancing around in armor, but few are genuine full suits of armor and they're all edited few second clips strung together--but none of that equates running around in battle with all that crap (and even in those ding-bat youtube vids you can see them huffin' and puffin'--not comfortable stuff). So, what does this have to do with anything about your armor? 30kg is roughly 65lbs, and after literal centuries of working various full suits of armor to even being able to weather bomb blasts, no matter what-mobility suffers, can't move very quickly, and tend to weight 30kg or less as a result. So, with this armor weighing in 54kg, that's about 120lbs... that's a lot of weight, that's basically another person. Your character is not going to be movin' much... like at all... Maybe a joggers pace at best. Ever see how fast someone moves doing a fireman's carry? It's gonna be like that. And a lot more restricting than those full plate armor knights.

And as a last caveat, another heads up, which is personnel shields are restricted. Too easy for seedy folks to potentially abuse then, so they understandably wound up being restricted.

I had a few accidents on my armor. See I didn't think It wars referring to the roman numerals. when I read over the rating system It confused me. The first thing to pop into my head was the alphabet thus leading to thinking that P would be acceptable since it was I through X. Also when I was making the armor my thoughts wouldn't keep away from halo. That is what lead me to the armor's weight. Granted that was based off a soldier who had to be augmented first but, never the less their armor is fairly heavy and they keep their mobility. I will reassign the weight so I fix the error. Also sorry about the shield. I didn't realize they were restricted in SWU.

Feb 25, 2013 19:08:44 GMT -5 Sara said:

Also since this is apparently Plassteel, it would have to be far lighter, and far less protective.  As I can point out, since I caught flak for something on my own armor and had to add Durasteel plates added into it here and there.

Also to Sara thanks for the tip.

Again thank you guys for your help.

[Apillis]

The Spartans are genetically enhanced and have strength beyond that of a human. Hence why they can remain mobile in such armor and that's on top of the armor itself having its own unique enhancements that enable it to do what the soldier wearing it is capable of. But Star Wars is far and away from Halo, you'll notice in Star Wars hulking heavy armor is quite restricting for the wearer. Even the heavy Mando armor is only around 20kg typically. Besides, it's always a fallacy to apply the faux-science of one established Sci-Fi universe to the faux-science of another established Sci-Fi universe.

[Sara]

Mjolinir is invaraibly much more sophisticated than even Darth Vader's armor, or most Mandalorians. Tiny servos, synthetic muscle material, multiple layers, a system to monitor vitals, circuitry set up to hold a sophisticated AI, structural enhancements. That suit is above and beyond anything really seen by the Star Wars universe. Just keep in mind what Apillis said above, and you'll be good.

[ramboneil]

Modern day soldiers lug around well over 60kg of armor and other miscellaneous bulls**t all the time. Admittedly, they ride around in vehicles all the time but they can and do fight for hours on end in that stuff.

With the Mjolinir, you forgot the personal shielding system, bio-foam applicator, waste disposal system, rantion paste feed system, and fission-boosted-microfusion bottle and backpack powerplant along with satellite communications system. Additionally in the helmet, there's an oxygen scrubber, NCB filter, thermal sensor, motion tracker, flashlight, imaging, recording and video systems. It's even got a nice magnetic strip on the back for easy access to weapons and all sorts of other things to let you hold the 660 rounds of 7.62x51mm that you picked up for that nifty assault rifle and GRAVITY HAMMER. Also the neural link system that allows the suit and system to sent real time combat information directly to the wearer's brain and systems durable enough to survive high orbital reentry from Geo-sync. It is impervious to anything lighter then 5.56. Did I mention that the Mark V weighs 1000 pounds?

I believe a titanium/duralumin/ceramic layered composite with an armorweave bodysuit should provide protection from lighter blaster bolts and some protection from higher powered rifles. The layered composite could protect some electronics equipment, maybe a miniature radar system and/or short-distance wireless link. A backpack could hold a small droid brain (and the powercell) for hacking and coordinating battlefield data in real time. Maybe put some shock absorbers in the boots and electromagnetic strips to hold ammunition and whatnot. Add that up, you're topping out somewhere around 20-25 kg. It would be hella itchy though and would take ages to get out of it.

[Apillis]

Feb 28, 2013 0:59:06 GMT -5 ramboneil said:

Modern day soldiers lug around well over 60kg of armor and other miscellaneous bulls**t all the time. Admittedly, they ride around in vehicles all the time but they can and do fight for hours on end in that stuff.

Do you have any damn clue how fast they drop that gear when a firefight breaks out? And they don't carry that much when going into a hot-zone... or at any time really. When my father was in Vietnam and the Gulf War, his pack never weighed more than a 15-20lb (all of his gear he said never went beyond 40lbs), because anything more would be damn stupid in a firefight. From there he mostly just carried water and ammo. When mobilizing as a unit before setting up a base camp, sure they might carry a lot of crap, but it's no where near 60kg. But when they're going out into the field.

Also you're not putting everything into its proper context here. We're talking about body armor alone. The body armor of the modern soldier is a third less of what this armor weighs. Body armor and the helmet, tend to be about 35 to 40lbs, that's 15-18kg, so much for your 60kg right off the bat there.

There's a big difference in the gear you carry when you're seeking to establish a camp or base, and the gear you carry for when you're going into the field for an assault or recon or patrol. On top of which, this armor is for a Mercenary/Assassin type character. So for such an individual running around in a massive suit of hulking armor doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

But let's go by your "60kg" example (which I think you must've misread as 60kg because everything I've been told friends and family who were soldiers and Marines the modern soldier carries on average about 60lbs not kg, because 60kg is 135lbs, and a soldier running around with that much weight on them is looking to commit suicide from exhaustion the second a firefight breaks out or is simply made to run). Let's say this person's character carries the same amount of weight you think a modern soldier carries. That's a total of 114kg (your 60kg + this armor's 54kg), that's about 250lbs... without some sort of strength enhancer within the armor or something--just the first few steps is going to crush a person unless they're a like friggin' Wookiee or insane body-builder with crazy strength, and even then it's not something they'd want to lug around by choice when hunting other folks down.

[Dire Wolf]

I'm a Marine, and I approve of Apillis' message.

Just to caveat off of what she said, I don't even take 60kg on hikes. Where, basically, we walk around with heavy stuff on our back. Its probably more around 60-70lbs, and I would honestly rather nail my man parts to a wall than walk any distance with that much weight on my back.

While I do expect to make this weigh a little bit more than a modern day soldier's armor because its a suit and not just a vest, 60kg is ridiculous. Or whatever you were trying to say, Ramboneil. If you tried to tell me to take 60kg and start running around shooting people COD style (which is what this char would be doing), I'd probably just shoot you, shrug, and walk off to go read a playboy or something in a porta-potty.

Assuming it was while I was deployed, of course.

Edit: You missed the point of what Sara was trying to say with the Mjolnir armor system. No one cares about all of its functions. This is star wars.

Edit 2: Rambo, get a character approved before posting on this board again, please.

[sharp]

Aside from the resulting posts I have modified the armor more now that the tech items (Ships, droids,ect) are back up.