Force vs. Tech

[Djinnet]

The force (as the jedi can use it) is not all powerful. Neither is Technology. Many things can be done equally well by either a force power or technical device. The Emperor can shoot lighting which can kill a person from his fingers. Is that deadlier than a repeating rifle blaster? The lightning seems to be slow and painful. The Rifle just kills quickly and efficiently. Darth Vader can block blaster fire with his hands but Yoda can stop Lighting with his hands too. In either case, most jedi have to use lightsabers to block the attacks. And I doubt the Emperor could shoot lightning through a Droidica's force fields. Blasters, lightning, force fields, and force protection all seem to be pretty evenly matched.

I am curious what other force to technology parallels are apparent?

Destruction (Stun gun = Level 2) (blaster rifle = level 6?)

Telekinesis = Personal Anti grav cargo movers (Can lift app. 1 metric ton. Possibly matching Force Telekinesis level 3) Star Fighter Tractor beams (TK level 7?)

Sense: Even today computer predictor and skill assisting programs are impressive. Luke SkyWalkers Force sense was better than a targeting Computer but Luke was very strong in the force. And how many Jedi's would completely ignore their nav computers before engaging hyperdrive? (Analytical programs = Force Sense 1-6?)

Any other ideas?

[Kaz Klar]

what about interrigation? Penetrate mind vrs. serums. or just common toruture methods. The force just seems to be an easier verson of something. And the lightning thing bugs me, if it wasnt able to fry someone in 5 seconds or less i would not use it. Lightning sheild vs the evo troopers sheilds is another one ill think of more and post again,...

[Jasen Mors]

But the Force is an endless supply of power, whereas Technology requires power cells and the likes to function, so the Force has the immediate advantage.

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The Force can tear down a Star Destroyer from the sky, what Technology can do that? Lasers? It takes a long time to completely destroy a ship, complete with taking down the shields. Whereas the Force could just tear it apart.

That's my view, Force beating Technology.

[Dire Wolf]

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Keep in mind though, Galen Marek aka Starkiller was probably the strongest force weilder in the history of the star wars universe

[Jasen Mors]

I doubt he'd be as powerful as somebody such as Yoda or Palpatine, although he had great power to his credit. I do think that there's others who could do it, they likely just doubt themselves and that would cause them not to.

[Kaz Klar]

but the force is not endless, not in the sense you said. No one could force lightning for eternity, it would kill them. Things such as syrum parts grow and can be regrown. where as when a person dies...normally, they remain dead and the force is not longer with them.

[Jasen Mors]

Somebody like Palpatine could likely use Force Lightning for a long... long... LONG time, but doesn't because, well, that's overkill and it's unnecessary. But a power source would run out long before a person's connection to the Force would.

Obviously the users of the Force aren't going to last forever, but the Force will. Unlike power which has to be replaced after time.

[croaky]

Exactly, technology needs resources and money to produce, the force is much more economical.

[Jasen Mors]

And as a passing thought... anybody think it'd be possible for the Force to run technology both productively and successfully? Like Force Lightning in a weaker form could possible power an engine...

Just a thought that the Force could run technology, but technology can't run the Force...

[\J|K/]

Starforge my son, Starforge. Force pwns Technology because the Force can even create technology.

[croaky]

The force is the thing that moves and compells all things in the universe, technology breaks down.
'nuff said.

[Halmtier]

The force can't make me a good meal though. Damn you force.

[10Tickler]

LOL, but a Good sith could Lightning some sort of beastie and make Freshly cooked steaks!

[Djinnet]

Actually when you get right down to it, Technology is nothing more than another way of using the force. Saying that the force is infinate while technology is limited is just a matter of prospective. Technology is the physics of using matter and energy effectively. Just like the force. Since there is unlimited matter and energy in the universe, you could easily say that technology is unlimited also. At the same time, there is still only a limited knowlege of how to use the force. Otherwise all jedi would be gods. They just use different means to reach the same goals. Midi-chlorian are basically hyper efficient nano computers. Humans are basically just bio androids. The brain is a chemical computer memory and processing system. Yes, the force can replicate technology but don't forget that Midi-chlorians have been created when verious jedi have been cloned as well. Cloning Technology could easily create a vast army of force users.

The Force might be a much more efficent way to use the same forces but only by highly trained users with vast amounts of experience. Technology might be more cumbersome and expensive but any young teenager can be taught to push the right buttons.

[Flaw(less)]

It's not even a truly fair comparison, the force trumps tech easily, depending on the user we are referencing.

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Starkiller was hands down stronger in the force than both Yoda and Palpatine, they wouldn't have stood a chance against him; plain and simple. Still, there are force users in the book series stronger than him still. Jacen Solo (sp?) was supposidly one of the strongest in the more 'recent' times. In times past, I'm sure they've had countless people stronger than Starkiller.

I guess it depends on the perspective of the one judging it. Darth Vader was supposed to be 'the Chosen One', but he is a relative push over in the grand scheme of things. The Book Series, I don't read it my friend Mike tells me this, it has several people who are strong enough to do all sorts of crazy things. Apparently, sometime in the past someone used the force to destroy a whole planet on their own. That's ridiculous. A walking Death Star that needs no cool-down. Outrageous!

So, in essence, I guess I am saying that the Force comes right down to being Over-Powered. Depending on the user, it can do anything.. apparently.

[10Tickler]

Oct 27, 2008 13:22:27 GMT -5 Flaw(less) said:

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Starkiller was hands down stronger in the force than both Yoda and Palpatine, they wouldn't have stood a chance against him; plain and simple. Still, there are force users in the book series stronger than him still. Jacen Solo (sp?) was supposidly one of the strongest in the more 'recent' times. In times past, I'm sure they've had countless people stronger than Starkiller.

Kyp Durran was counted as stronger then Luke at one Point, Jaina and Jacen convinced a Whole Species that they were Gods, Cighal was able to Cure Incurable Diseases, The NJO is Chock Full of Powerful Jedi

[Zarkan]

In a way technology is more powerful than the force because while the force itself is everpreseant and limitless the number of people who can utilize it is extremely narrow and finite anyone can use a blaster very, very few force users could lift as much as a single brick much less a person.

[10Tickler]

Yet, while all can use a blaster, who can use it Well?

[Zarkan]

That eclipse depends one what you would define as well. About 87% of untrained people with coaching can hit a target the size of a human head from 75 yards with a scoped rifle and can hit the same man sized target from about 50 yards using iron sights. By my figure you could improve that simply because blasters *Should* any way lack recoil.

[10Tickler]

Stormtrooper Effect