jedi

[dark]

IHave a funny feeling geroges own interprtation of the jedi went missing somewhere unlees he planned it as apprently Obi loved anikan i know as a brother but it was still i type of Love also in some ways he suffred for that also if the Jedi are not supposed to get angry then what was Windu getting angry with Anikan well i know it might be because of what was heppening but that still abit you know ayway whats you view on the matter

[Hawke Belmont]

For the good of the site please re-write that into readable english. LOL

[Kella]

Oh, I have friends that type like that all the time. ;D I've gotten used to translating. How 'bout...

I have a funny feeling that George's own interpretation [or original idea] of the Jedi went missing somewhere, unless he planned it [that way], as [it seems that] Obi-wan loved Anikan. I know [it was] as a brother, but it was still a type of Love. Also, in some ways, he suffered for that. Also, if the Jedi are not supposed to get angry, then [why] was Windu getting angry with Anikan? Well, I know it might be because of what was happening [at the time], but that's still a bit... you know.... Anyway, what's your view on the matter?

i.e., why were the Jedi so dang emotional in the films? ;D

Hopefully, you take no offense to the above, dark. X) I think it's a fascinating idea.

I never really thought about that before... Well, firstly, emotional Jedi make better movies. ;D I don't know much about the Jedi during the Clone Wars, but it seems like the Jedi during this particular current era were a lot more strict. Maybe it just has to do with time-frame, and people expanding upon Lucas's original idea. Personally, I'm not all that fond of the stony-faced Jedi concept. ;D I like people with personality! roffle. Hence my affinity for fringers, and somewhat... unorthodox Jedi.

[Hawke Belmont]

Same! Mace Windu is just awersome!

[Jenno]

And thus we see the flaw which leads to so much turmoil in the history of Star Wars ;P.

Why so many battles? So much death? Because the Jedi do not stick 100% to their code. They feel therefore they fall. To deny one's emotions full and constantly would be darn-near impossible, even more so for an entire Order to accomplish. Because they can't help but feel the Jedi are dooming themselves by trying to force out their emotions. Even if they were to achieve their goal, what would they accomplish, if they didn't feel then what would drive them to bring peace, they would not care.

Ooops, think I started going a bit off subject there, or at least looking at it too in-depth.

[Necro Stormborn]

sounds like your usual..


personally i could careless...

the dark jedi and the jedi are different simply because one trys not o feel, while the other embraces it.

-_-.... nuff said

[Karl the Unfettered]

Actually the Dark Jedi deny their emotions too; they don't like connections and bonds any more than the Jedi do, as it could be weakness. If you were a Sith Lord and you had a daughter or whatever you were fond of, what would happen if someone took her hostage despite all the security around her and made unreasonable demands at the price of her life? You would have no choice but to do as they wanted; your bond with her would allow nothing less.

Anger, hatred, fear, pain. These are what most people think of, and the most easily dealt with. Love, however, or compassion, attachment, whatever you call it, are not so hard to handle, and while they are very positive emotions both the Jedi and Sith/Dark Jedi dislike them because they are so very easily twisted about on you.

The Jedi fail more often and more spectacularly because most of them were brought up to completely deny all such feelings, but not how to deal with them in the event they built up and overwhelmed you anyway despite your best efforts. That's probably why the Council only likes older and more experienced Jedi on their roster; such Jedi have probably figured out how to deal with such things and let them pass on from their lives, experiences which bring wisdom and maturity in and of themselves. The Sith/Dark Jedi don't fail so greatly, because they don't usually live long enough for their story to be told, due to the cutthroat, backstabbing nature of the Dark Side.

An interesting philosophical quandary, so it is.

[Kella]

To compound upon my earlier comments;

I think, in the end, the most spectacular of Jedi were not the ones who stuck strictly to the code. For without compassion, without emotion, there can be no sympathy, and without sympathy, there can be little motivation, and without motivation, what point is there to labor to save the universe from itself?
I think the true key lay not in all-out denial, but in the ability to let go. Some Jedi were able to come about the conclusion on their own, and usually with brushes with their own weakness. Obi-Wan loved Anakin as a brother, and perhaps that blinded him somewhat to Anakin's steps toward the edge. However, in the end, he knew when to let go; and turned his back upon his weakness, staying with the light. Anakin, however, became so consumed with his love of Padme, and more directly, his fear of losing her, he tumbled toward the Dark Side, because he did not know when to let go.
I think for many Masters, the Jedi Code wasn't so much rules as... Guidelines.