The Will of the Force

[Mara]

Will of the Force sounds cool (and bland) enough.


And like, when they smite the bad guys they can leave notes like "the Will was here." ;D

[starwarsgirl008]

I have a pending Grey Jedi, Lilli (yes, she only has a first name ;D) that is at +2 attunement. If she does get accepted I would be interested in having her join. She would start off on Nar Shadda, but I can find an excuse to move her anywhere.

FYI- If she does join, she is a little shy at first, but then gets clingy, and is used to having a mentor, so someone in the group might have to take on that resopnsibility...

[Mara]

I have mine up! Querath is a work in progress, though.. so... yeah. ;D

[Dutch]

I might be interested- i still have a gray Jedi spot... I like the Will of the Force, or maybe just The Will for short. My question is this: Is this group going to come into play later on story wise? If so, I'd prolly make my character more of a permanent thing... (Tends to kill off chars for plot XD)

[Jace]

it may but for now I would like to keep it separate from the main Republic/Sith plot. The idea is that we are supposed to be a faction that keeps out of stuff like that. Anyways my Gray Jedi is also a WIP, though I plan on finishing him soon.

Also it would be nice to have you onboard SWG, I am sure we can find someone who can act in a mentor capacity...Darigaaz, my character might be able to..though he is going to use ramble nonsensical Force philosophy xD

[Dutch]

Hmm... maybe they could be like moderator type group, punish wayward Jedi/ Dark Jedi alike... I dunno, just an idea. And I think I could definitely weave a good character into this group- I have ideas

[Apillis]

Hmmm, I wouldn't really see a bunch of philosophical Grey Jedi going around punishing Jedi and Dark Jedi simply because of their affiliation to one or the other. That would betray what Grey Jedi typically is, because they're outside of such factions and/or severed ties with them largely to no longer have anything to do with them or simply claim no affiliation with either and don't want any involvement them. Punishing them would get them involved with both factions on a hostile level, which would typically be a Grey Jedi's nightmare given how they distance themselves from both factions.

Although, I could see the ragtag philosophers going about attempting to askew the beliefs of Jedi and Dark Jedi when they come across them if they choose.

[Deceit *Drinker of Jawa-Juice*]

Jul 10, 2009 18:39:09 GMT -5 Jace said:

Not sure for a name as of yet...

I kinda imagined it was just like a faction of all these enlightened force users. Their planet would kinda serve as a haven for those who need it. Many of these force users may be land owners and such. It would kinda be like an aristocracy without all the greed and political guile anyways still a rough idea

A planetary society of 'enlightened force users, all of them own land, creating it a planet of their own, with a righteous political party and no excess greed.

See, now we're talking about an ideal society. Which is absurd.

I like absurdities, oddities, and enigmas. You've got my attention, friend.

And I love philosophy, although most of my old philosophies are on relativity, which I no longer follow, and now all of my new philosophies are religious, but I see how the Force would change things as far as philosophy goes.

I'm volunteering to make a higher up type gray jedi in this faction, who owns some land.

Also, given that our characters are all philosophers, there will definitely be conflict. Do you honestly think you can get an entire group of philosophies together and not have many conflicting edges? Even the most compatible two people with the same general philosophy will have differences. And when the machine begins its motions, the different parts will eventually collide, and create turmoil.

As far as the name goes, it should definitely be something that promotes thought, and should have hidden meanings, multiple interpretations, and one solid, unifying meaning. For this is how all factions are at their hearts. And the name of anything is what pulls people in.
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Anyway, that's my two cents.


EDIT: Apillis, take the example of the Omar in Deus Ex: Invisible War. They were always an indifferent, gray faction, much like most Gray Jedi. But when given the chance, they sprang up and encouraged the destruction of both the Illuminati, and the Templars.

Typically, Gray Jedi's are portrayed as Hermits who just want to live the rest of their lives alone on some hutt in Kashyyyk. Anyways, my point is, why stay with the Typical? Why not make a Gray Jedi faction who is not just non-affiliated, but against both factions, saying that the Sith are too greedy, and the Jedi simply don't *live.* Saying that the Sith are corrupt, and the Jedi are impersonal and devoid of anything real. At least, that's the type of Gray Jedi *I* always make. ^-^

[Jace]

Good points Deceit.

I can see where you and Maximus are coming from about the Sith/Jedi thing. Each member has their own belief/philosophy and hence their view towards the Jedi/Sith. Some will be indifferent, others more vocal, but for the most part we won't involve ourselves with either because at the end of the day it would make us a big target.

Oh and I have no doubt that there will be conflicting philosophies, I count on it actually. Its what is going to be the bread and butter of this faction. Unlike the Jedi/Sith though, we aren't going to go to battle and try and kill each other over our differences.

Anyways I am glad to have you on board deceit ^_^

[Karl the Unfettered]

I think what deceit is talking about are Grey Jedi that actually do something about stuff instead of sitting around, like Kreia who played the Jedi and Sith off of each other, or Jolee Bindo who left the Jedi to serve people more directly in the Outer Rim.

Anyway, I might join as well, if my fellow Tuljima ever leaves the Order as I had originally planned. That might take a while, though, and he's no philosopher by any stretch of the word; he might become one. *shrug*

[Jace]

well like I stated in our original description, we will be helping others out much like Bindo did but on a larger scale I guess. I doubt we would do anything like Kreia does, we disagree with the Jedi/Sith but aren't trying to take them down...its what makes us different from them.

[Mara]

Just wondering something... since I'm going to have mine just be a Force-sensitive (never trained)... I'm wondering how I would get him involved in The Will.

Perhaps one of the members meets him or something?

I was thinking it would be interesting to play a character who the Force but no instruction. And since they will be mostly discussing, I don't think it will matter whether or not he had training.

[Deceit *Drinker of Jawa-Juice*]

Jul 20, 2009 0:59:37 GMT -5 Jace said:

well like I stated in our original description, we will be helping others out much like Bindo did but on a larger scale I guess. I doubt we would do anything like Kreia does, we disagree with the Jedi/Sith but aren't trying to take them down...its what makes us different from them.

The Jedi might not be a physical threat...At first. But both factions push themselves on everybody else, the Sith moreso. And eventually, there won't be room for a bunch of non-sith or non-Jedi in those two utopia worlds. I understand them wanting to help people and not push their ways on others like the Jedi and Sith, because to go to war or resort to forcing their opinions on others would be to convert and do what both the other factions are doing. But like I said, eventually they *Will* become a target. The Sith, if they win the war, would never just stand by and watch as force sensitive people gather en-masse. Likewise, the Jedi wouldn't trust or like them, and eventually blood would be spilled. Or maybe they would politically try to dismember them. But one excuse, and their whole society would be in danger.

See what I'm getting at? Individual force users doing good of their own accord, living like hermits, or other such stuff, wouldn't be much of a problem to either faction. But when you get a group of them, all disagreeing with you, it gets dangerous.

And if our characters aren't ready for when these events happen, they'll be slaughtered.

[Jace]

Yeah I understand but you are talking about something quite far in the future. Of course the Jedi won't approve, but they don't have any grounds to do anything about it. the Sith are nowhere near ready to attack, not to mention they would first try to look for allies among us. Either way, I know what you are talking about something far in the future. Don't forget that there have been factions of Force users across the galaxy who have been left alone by the Jedi.

Mara I am sure we can work out on RP where your character is brought in. It is also possible he/she could have heard of it and found his/her way there.

[Deceit *Drinker of Jawa-Juice*]

Right, so, is there any specific thing I should take into account when making my characters history? Other than, of course, how he fell in with them? For instance, if I'm going to make a character who *Already* owns some land there, and is a member of the faction, that means that other characters or NPC's would have come before him.

I just need to know things like, how the group was formed, did they meet before they acquired the planet, and other such things. And most importantly, what planet we're on, our current status with other factions, any notable history of the faction, and, of course, our current status on ship numbers, alliances, and other such beautiful things.

[Jace]

The problem is, I can't tell you the planet for sure because I am not sure if it will be approved. The planet I had in mind though is Maridun.

I plan on having my gray jedi be the founder just to avoid confusion, but like I stated earlier, hes just the founder not the leader. There is no one single leader.

The group was formed 15 years ago by my character Darigaaz. About 25 years ago, my character arrived on the planet to kinda enslave the population/dictator, you know the drill. Due to a series of events(undecided) he brought to this revelation partly by those who he has enslaved. Thus he begins his path to redemption, during the next 5 years he works on bettering the current society and somewhere along the lines gives refuge to some former DJ's like himself. This is where the rumors begin to spread from person to person that this colony will protect those in need, specifically former jedi/DJ. Thus 5 years later, Darigaaz decides to form a sect/order/group of those that have gathered to his colony over the years aka "The Will of the Force". During those years, the others who had arrived also buy their own land and thus the Will spreads across the planet.

The Republic while wary is not totally against the idea, same with the Sith Empire. They both see a planet of potential allies. The Will while not as regulated as the Jedi Order, is decidedly light oriented. Force users with intentions of malice or evil will immediately be rejected. Though the Will does provide guidance to those who wish to turn from a darker path. While the Order is not entirely fond of the Will, they cannot deny it has been useful to their purposes. The will has brought many fallen jedi back to the light, some of whom returned to the Order. I can't really speak for the Sith Order since no one is supposed to know they exist at this point.

As ship numbers/military status, it is kept to a minimal. Most of our current defense force comprises of the private navy's of the inhabitants. There is also a small formal military but its size is only enough to make sure they aren't raided by pirates and the like.

Anything else, just ask...its still a little on the rough side, so any suggestions are welcome

[Jiko]

question

1) would be actually own a planet?

if no then I was thinking of creating a character who is not a force user but just a philosopher who shares the same values or concepts of this grey jedi thing. He would be like a count of one of the planets probbly belonging to the Republic but if accepted You guys could basically live there.

Ok if you do have a planet can the count be involved?
Can he debate with you guys on the events?

[Deceit *Drinker of Jawa-Juice*]

Right, well, I'll actually hold off on making that Character till our faction is accepted, and of our requirements are put into order ( If you have any questions on that, See Jenno's assassin Plot, it has a template for things that all characters joining that Plot need and such, very organized. ). Or do we have to have five accepted characters to make it?

Cuz then we'll have a paradox. My char will need to wait for the faction to be created to write his history, and the faction would need to wait for him to be accepted.

[Jace]

We will have a planet and I am sure he can be involved @dorny

I am not really sure what else you are looking for Deceit. I have given you the time when it was founded and what it is and how it is affiliated with others and such. When it put it in the faction template it isn't going to get that much more specific.

The idea is that you need five accepted characters before you can apply for a faction. You can wait if you need to, its not a big deal...we may gather 5 and then get accepted and then you can work from there.

[Mara]

Jul 20, 2009 22:40:31 GMT -5 Jace said:

Mara I am sure we can work out on RP where your character is brought in. It is also possible he/she could have heard of it and found his/her way there.

Yep... just making sure it's not a problem that he won't be trained...