Type XII Fast Attack Boat

[Dutch]

Aug 12, 2012 21:08:48 GMT -5 ramboneil said:

Official Name: Type XII Missile Boat
Faction/Affiliation: Independent
Classification: Missile Boat

Stock/Custom: Stock

Dimensions-
Height: 13m
Width: 15m
Length: 60m

Manufacturer: Quantum Vision Works

Energy Source: 1x Fusion Reactor

Hyper drive rating: 4 (8 backup)

Crew Necessity: 18 crew (5 minimum)

Armament:
3 torpedo tubes (5 per tube: 4 regular, 1 nuclear) What do you mean by "regular? And no nuclear weapons
6 concussion missile launchers (3 per turret, 10 per launcher)

Passenger Capacity: 6 passengers
Cargo Capacity: 20 tonnes
Consumables: 1.5 months Seems a bit light, most starships have at least 3-6 months of rations
Hanger Facilities/Starfighter Capacity: none

Other:
Advanced thrust vectoring which does...?
AI core No
Automation which does.../
Double redundancies which does...?

Statistics-
Maximum speed: 299,792,458 m/s put this into KPH please
Acceleration: 6
Maneuverability: 6
Effectiveness vs. Starfighters: 5
Effectiveness vs. Capital Ships: 4
Armor: 3
Shielding: 4
Sensors: 5
Reliability: 5

Description/role:
Due to the ship's advanced thrust vectoring system and powerful AI core, it is able to preform advanced maneuvers that some fighters cannot preform, such as travel on a vector independent of the nose of the ship. It is capable travel completely perpendicular to the direction of it's nose depending on the necessity of the situation and how many sh*ts the commander gives on any particular day.

In addition, the AI core allows for relatively complicated problems to be resolved extremely quickly, also allowing the ship to preform a limited degree of maintenance all by itself. It is also capable of operating with only a bridge crew due to the automation, however, it's effectiveness is severely hampered.

AI core is not gonna fly, this thing isn't the Normandy. Fix what I noted, and we'll take another looksie

[ramboneil]

Fine, I changed AI core to Droid Brain. CIC is also known as the Combat Information Center (bridge). No nukes, although I have no idea why nukes aren't allowed, considering that turbo-lasers are like, terra-joule scale. The max speed is in kilometers per hour now.

Well, it's not like the republic cares about nukes, they let starships fall to the ground at fractions of C. A nuke doesn't even put a dent on that.

[Lemur, The Kool-Aid Guy]

Just for the record, a CIC is not the bridge.

[Zarkan]

Every ship has a CIC its a component of the bridge.

[ramboneil]

Alrighty then, I have changed the entire weapons scheme of the boat. Now how about it?

[Zarkan]

There was no issue with it being a torpedo bomber in corvette form.

[ramboneil]

>.> the point is to not get hit. Besides, the torpedo bomber doesn't have a weapons range of 120+ kilometers. Since the weapons actually use light, the beams travel at the speed of light, meaning that time till impact would be effectively instant. Also, since the beams are light, they don't show up on sensors until said sensors start screaming "ALERT! ALERT! YOU ARE BEING FIRED UPON! YOU HAVE BEEN HIT NOW! STOP PONDERING AND DO SOMETHING!"

Plus, you wouldn't even see the ship, star wars ships appear to lack the targeting systems to engage at anything outside of visual range.

I would have hoped to get the range to around 150,000 kilometers, since the beam would only take half a second to strike the target even at that range. Alas, that would be crazily unfair so I'm going with 120 kilometers.

[Ghostie]

Did I just read your maximum speed at almost 18,000,000 km/h?

[sparrow]

>.> the point is to not get hit. Besides, the torpedo bomber doesn't have a weapons range of 120+ kilometers. Since the weapons actually use light, the beams travel at the speed of light, meaning that time till impact would be effectively instant. Also, since the beams are light, they don't show up on sensors until said sensors start screaming "ALERT! ALERT! YOU ARE BEING FIRED UPON! YOU HAVE BEEN HIT NOW! STOP PONDERING AND DO SOMETHING!"

Hey remember that whole thing about stuff that doesn't exist in the Star Wars Universe, the "if it wouldn't have been present in any of the movies then it shouldn't be around 3000+ years earlier" thing? Yeah, here it is again.

The sensors wouldn't be screaming "ALERT! ALERT! YOU ARE BEING FIRED UPON! YOU HAVE BEEN HIT NOW! STOP PONDERING AND DO SOMETHING!" They would be screaming "Alert! Someone is shining a flashlight at us!"

By the way, have you ever thought about making a character?

[Apillis]

Um... it 18 million kmh? Really...

I'm going to put this plainly. There's no way this thing is going to be going faster than something like the TIE Phantom or Predator-class TIE fighter, which either go like 1500 kmh at max, and they're considered among the fastest--not just starfighters--but ships in general for their time... which is several thousand years ahead of now.

Now, if you're going by lightspeed for when it "makes the jump to lightspeed". Hate to break it to you... but it's still WAY off.

Why?

The whole "lightspeed" thing going into hyperspace is actually just a slang term. In fact, those ships hyperdrives are causing the ship to fly easily around hundred million times faster than the speed of light. That's canon.

So... you're going to have to revise the whole "17,987,547.5 km/h", because no matter how you slice it... the math is just off.

[Rugs]

Remember when we used to have an actual speed in the ship app and then Arh took it out?

I'm not Arh, obviously, but I know he did it for a reason, or a few reasons. I'm gonna go out a limb here and guess at two of them

1. It's absolutely irrelevant when you're writing 99.9% of the time.
2. Because people like to pull numbers out of their ass and go 'my ship can go thirteen bajillion million miles/kilometers/inches/snails an hour!' This, of course, leads to discussion in the app about if that ship can, in fact, go thirteen bajillion million miles/kilometers/inches/snails an hour, when this isn't really anything that has any more real value than a bullet point on an app.

So I said all that to say this: Just leave the actual speed out. It doesn't mean a thing, and it was removed for a reason.

[Zarkan]

Aug 12, 2012 21:08:48 GMT -5 ramboneil said:

Official Name: Type XII Fast Attack Boat
Faction/Affiliation: Independent
Classification: Fast Attack Boat

Stock/Custom: Stock

Dimensions-
Height: 13m
Width: 15m
Length: 60m

Manufacturer: Quantum Vision Works

Energy Source: 1x Fusion Reactor

Hyper drive rating: 4 (8 backup)

Crew Necessity: 18 crew (5 minimum)

Armament:
2 torpedo tubes (5 proton torpedoes per tube)
1 missile tubes (5 concussion missiles)
6 High Energy Coherent Light Emiters (3 per turret)
(I would suggest picking a role either as a anti-small craft picket ship or a torpedo corvette as it is this ship has too many weapon for its size)

Passenger Capacity: 6 passengers
Cargo Capacity: 20 tonnes
Consumables: 3 months
Hanger Facilities/Starfighter Capacity: none

Other:
Advanced thrust vectoring (allows for more complex maneuvers) (It's space if you want more maneuverability you want enlarged maneuvering thrusters.)
Automation (automates several of the ship's systems to reduce crew size)
Droid Brain integrated into the CIC (processes battlefield information more quickly and efficiently, also helps to operate the automation and thrust vectoring)
Double redundancies (allows continued operation after the failure of core systems)

Statistics-
Maximum speed: 17,987,547.5 km/h (unecessary accel shows your ships acceleration in relation to other ships and as such your speed in relation to them.)
Acceleration: 6
Maneuverability: 6
Effectiveness vs. Starfighters: 3 (Should be higher with the mix of lasers and missiles)
Effectiveness vs. Capital Ships: 5 (this would be good with the orginal spread of torpedos no it's currently two high for a single strong anti-cap weapon.)
Effective Range: 120 kilometers (200 km extreme range)
Armor: 3
Shielding: 4
Sensors: 5
Reliability: 5

Description/role:
Due to the ship's advanced thrust vectoring system and powerful AI core, it is able to preform advanced maneuvers that some fighters cannot preform, such as travel on a vector independent of the nose of the ship. It is capable travel completely perpendicular to the direction of it's nose depending on the necessity of the situation and how many sh*ts the commander gives on any particular day.

The High Energy Coherent Light emitters are an extremely potent part of the ship's armament. Due to the fact that it is unable to cause significant harm to larger targets, it stands it's distance and attempts to kill it's enemy from afar. The speed-of-light nature of the weapon gives it a much greater effective range then even missiles, though this comes at the cost of power. The weapon is intended to cut broad swaths across an enemy hull and cause systems failure across the length and breadth, not to cause explosive vaporization like turbolasers or large blasters. Most of the calculations are handled by the ship's main computer and droid brain, allowing for the ship to attack the enemy from outside of visual range.

Breaking from tradition, the reactor does not actually charge capacitor banks inside the turret, rather, the reactor is directly wired to the turret. The only factor that limits the duration of the laser attack is overheating, which is not much of a problem. The effective recharge time is effectively instantaneous.

In addition, the droid brain integrated CIC allows for the ship to preform a limited degree of maintenance all by itself. It is also capable of operating with only a bridge crew due to the automation, however, it's effectiveness is severely hampered.

[ramboneil]

I give up on this, trash it alright? I'll just look around for a ship suitable to my needs.